4 lords struggle for supremacy in the surface world little do they know the underworldling's have been massing an army for a surprise attack. It was rumoured that a powerful demoness was once imprisoned by the Dungeon Overlords that may be the key to ending this war.
Author: Karl K (Timonium, MD), 04-04-2025 08:58 Like The overlords almost defeated me, tough but fair - Dungeon Overlords This map has perfectly balanced difficulty all the way through on Impossible. In the opening you have to wend your way between strong creature stacks to find enough gold to beat them. In the middle the other teams challenge your explorers while the underground barbarians are invincible. At the end the demoness lays waste to the land with Dimension Door and it’s in question whether you’ll ever be able to beat her. Super fun. I’m glad I didn’t get her first. I played this map blind and beat it on month 5, week 2, day 5.
It’s fun how you just explore for the first quarter of the map. No major roads, no towns, just crossing the plains. Having no roads also means the enemy doesn’t reach you too quickly – you’d probably never survive if they could find you faster. The lack of roads also means Town Portal doesn’t make everything too easy – if you have to head home, you’ve lost a lot of travel time. Most of the towns have no taverns so you have to maneuver to send defenders, which is awesome. The lack of portals (particularly one-way portals to help the AI get to your towns) really lets you battle over the terrain, really fun.
The groups of enemies that joined me were a little oversized – the diamond golems and nagas were 3x the size of the army I was building for myself. There was one spot where 700 Air Elementals attempted to join me and I just said no, I’m only taking 100, otherwise this one square will change the entire map. I guess the map author doesn’t control that, they were just on the default aggressive setting.
It’s fun that you are much weaker than the enemy and have to lose heroes scouting all the time but have this big no-man’s land they haven’t found their way through. The pressure is on.
It’s weird that the quests to get crystal dragons expire so quick – midway through week 4, only three days after I first found the one at 55, 63, 0. The quest text didn’t warn me it would expire.
It’s fun how the center of the map becomes a no-go zone due to the barbarians coming up from underneath. They were perfectly balanced to be killer threats with Dimension Door and strong heroes.
The enemy unleashed the demoness in my game and that was super fun. She had Town Portal and Dimension Door so she could move all over the map and take towns and I had to snipe while she wasn’t looking. I almost gave up on the map as unwinnable near the end because I had revealed the entire map, no more treasures, had taken possession of every town at least once, but couldn’t come close to even beating the enemy’s second best hero with 30 Arch Devils, Gold Dragons, Black Dragons, and stats 42/50 to my 42/19. Or the teal with their 1000 Nomads and 100 Magic elementals and 600 MP for casting Resurrect and Earth Elemental with twice the spell power as me. But I ground out the win by harassing their towns and felt very accomplished for it.
I loved this map. It was right-sized, everything was balanced, fun, and felt designed as an experience. I will look for other maps by this author.
Author: Valery (Lyon, France), 19-10-2014 13:05 hehe Fortunately now maps4heroes allows attach pics. Tell your H3 masters to go shove :))
Thread in HC:
http://heroescommuni ty.com/viewthread.ph p3?TID=39695&PID=118 1501#focus
Author: itsfaith, 19-10-2014 04:45 done it too, but... lol Valery, stop lying!!! i know all about h3 and its clear for everyone there is no chance to win it in 1 month. Its not only my opinion, i asked some well-known masters of h3 about this map and they were disdainful of your post too.
Agree with William that diplomacy is the right way to beat all AI, but even with diplomacy you still should be lucky with 4 lvl artifacts + hero move bonuses like logistics or gloves,boots in early game ofcourse. Also you should know what boxes of pandora you should aim on first, because you need extra attack and defense bonuses vs hardest purple and pink heroes. Ofcourse, i am skipping such obvious things like good economics and town portal spell. So after severel attempts i was very lucky to finish this map on 73 day (was lucky to stack 235 cyclops on first week of second month). So your success in this map mostly depends on your luck!!!
itsfaith writes:
19-10-2014 18:34
done it too, but...
if you are really think that its proof, well i can do the same snapshot or even better with simply editing this map. Maybe, if you have saves from each turn, like it going and checking on tournament events so attach these and our discuss will be closed, or maybe you have streamed one of your games, so give the corresponding link. So, hope you understand that this screenshot is not serious proof agree?
Nautilus (Vienna) writes:
19-10-2014 19:23
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even if you won't believe it, there are people, who mastered playing against ai to a point where they will always achieve results most won't believe.
Train your skill, there is much to learn about this game.
Valery (Lyon, France) writes:
19-10-2014 20:21
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In general I am rather slow player as I like exploring. But this being Aegis first map, it is really easy. I enjoyed his map, is kinda warm up. It is not important how fast you do it, I did it in one month without hurry, but is true that I look in editor first so I knew where to go.
Btw, the screen above is from the link I put. So not really a hoax, as you can read the details of my game + more screens.
itsfaith writes:
19-10-2014 21:37
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xD, my fault, just read the HC community post that you have written. Well ally orange ofc its great support to make early game well done, and in the same time looking at your Kyrre's poor army))) and not bad stats, i am sure that you easily have beaten purple and pink heroes when they have low stack army or their army was split xD, however i have problems with 70 hydras and 235 cyclops xD, strange, isnt it? Also gained that stack of 100 genius from one of boxes, but lost them very quickly. So, playing with orange ally I wonder how with ease you explaining your success and telling to others about their game level.
Nautilus, i am not so brainless and stupid, i understand who are those people. One of them is my friend, we just saw and hate nerds that became pro (as they said) when tome of earth magic and spellbinder's hat simultaneously appear after cleaning of dragon utopia, so isnt it luck? But he said that is true pro xD, while his opponent made a great and hard work to find town portal and dimension door searching scrolls and etc. How do you think who won xD? And such morons as this guy is everywhere. This was just an example when guy explains you what means pro like Vallery explains his game on this map and forgot to say about orange ally and maybe something else)). So i have typed the true and detailed my finishing and possible ways to finish it clearly, briefly - you need to be lucky to complete this map (without ally ofc).
Valery (Lyon, France) writes:
19-10-2014 21:43
ally
First release of the map had orange player ally. I didn't change anything, that was the original map. Maybe map changed since then, didn't download later.
Author: William (San Diego, USA), 27-11-2013 22:16 Like Revised Rating Finally beat it on my 3rd and 4th tries. Still not a huge fan of the map though, had to focus on diplomacy both times and I ended up never buying units at either of the starting castles both games.
Author: Mike (kjbniouh), 16-11-2013 16:34 Like Win I have already done it by Castle.
It was about six months.
My Hero:
http://zapodaj.net/a e07eb289026a.bmp.htm l
And score:
http://zapodaj.net/a 5a474cca3ee8.bmp.htm l
Good Luck!
Author: Aegisdivine (canada), 15-11-2013 03:39 map The idea was to make a very random map. (Since I prefer randomness for replay value.)
If you can't beat it just try again. Prolly the ai just got lucky.
Author: William (San Diego, USA), 14-11-2013 22:05 Like Unbalanced. Tough vs AI There isn't much of an early-game or mid-game on this map. Monster stacks are way too strong so there isn't much to do until late mid-game. Unfortunately, due to the AI bonuses on Impossible (which I normally play at), this makes this map unbeatable at that level.
It's also fairly unbalanced since there are powerful artifacts all over the map and whoever gets the best ones will probably win.
Valery writes:
15-11-2013 01:43
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Err, the two players from HC finished it in one month on impossible level and it was very easy and comfortable. So you just rated your level of play...
The fact that there are so many artifacts and bonuses all around is the key to win instantly, so is not an argument, you should take them before the computer.
Aegisdivine (canada) writes:
15-11-2013 03:32
map
This map wasn't made for impossible tbh.
But then again, there are some who can beat it easily.
I guess it just depends on the player.
Author: Aegisdivine (canada), 06-11-2013 13:24 Map In beta. Would like to hear any feedback.
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